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Modification time support via WebDAV

Mike B. shared this idea ago

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Hi there.

I am sync'ing my Mailbox drive with local Linux systems via rclone (one-way sync). However, I would like to test bi-directional sync'ing (via `rclone bisync`), but apparently this is not possible through webDAV, as "modification time support is missing" in Mailbox. Is this a feature that could be implemented in the future?

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Peter Wiesengrund ●

That would be really great and would greatly improve usability.

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William Jackman ●

Hello Mike, Could you let us know how you managed to setup rclone to sync your Mailbox drive? I am running into problems

ERROR : IO error: couldn't list files: Propfind "davs://dav.mailbox.org/servlet/webdav.infostore/": unsupported protocol scheme "davs"

Did you use the option webdav and what was the url you used?

I am running Ubuntu Linux 24.04 and have installed rclone with apt (not with snap).

Thanks!

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Mike B. ●

Hey William,

The URL should be: `https://dav.mailbox.org/servlet/webdav.infostore/`. You should find more details here (https://kb.mailbox.org/en/private/drive-article/webdav-for-linux/).

In the meantime I have managed to use the `bisync` functionality of `rclone`, probably as a result of some developments, which made possible to use 2-way sync without `modtime`, but only based on `size` and `checksum`.

Some additional input:

- This Mailbox.org article in german language (https://kb.mailbox.org/de/privat/datei-cloud-mailbox-org-drive/das-drive-unter-linux-so-wird-es-eingerichtet) mentions about the possibility of webdav sync on Linux systems using the FreeFileSync tool. I didn't try it out (don't like the interface and the licencing), so can't comment on its functionalities.

- After using `rclone bisync` for a while, syncing between multiple systems, I decided to search for alternatives, given that syncing tens of GB of data (out of which many were photos/videos), a sync command would take between 5 and 10 minutes. I don't think this is an `rclone` issue, given that there is no server-side metadata, but nevertheless it was not a viable option for daily syncing. So I ended not using Mailbox.org for drive storage and synchronization, but rather **Syncthing**. `rclone` with Mailbox.org is still an option for backup purposes.

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Robert Huhle ●

This is still an issue:

<5>NOTICE: bisync is EXPERIMENTAL. Don't use in production! 
Failed to bisync: modification time support is missing on path1

When calling

rsync bisync mailbox: notes/

My .config/rclone:

[mailbox]
type = webdav
url = https://dav.mailbox.org/servlet/webdav.infostore/Userstore/Vorname%20Nachname/
vendor = other
user = <specific app access user name/number>
pass = <specific app access password>

Specific app access rights can be granted in mailbox.org settings.

It's a real showstopper for using rclone. rclone sync and mount are working with this set-up.

@Mike B.: How did you get rclone bisync working directly?
At the moment I'm using davfs in combination of bisync between mounted directory and working directory (otherwise linux file managers become really laggy).

This is still an issue:

<5>NOTICE: bisync is EXPERIMENTAL. Don't use in production! 
Failed to bisync: modification time support is missing on path1

When calling

rsync bisync mailbox: notes/

My .config/rclone:

[mailbox]
type = webdav
url = https://dav.mailbox.org/servlet/webdav.infostore/Userstore/Vorname%20Nachname/
vendor = other
user = <specific app access user name/number>
pass = <specific app access password>

Specific app access rights can be granted in mailbox.org settings.

It's a real showstopper for using rclone. rclone sync and mount are working with this set-up.

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Mike B. ●

@Robert Huhle: Well I don't use `rclone` anymore, because of the performance issues mentioned above, but I have my config saved, so here it is:

- type: webdav
- url: https://dav.mailbox.org/servlet/webdav.infostore/
- vendor: Mailbox
- user: <my-user>@mailbox.org
- pass: *** ENCRYPTED ***

The only differences I notice is that in my case the URL stops at `webdav.infostore/`, and that I didn't set up app-specific passwords.

I am on Fedora 42, `rclone` is at version 1.68.2.

@Robert Huhle: Well I don't use `rclone` anymore, because of the performance issues mentioned above, but I have my config saved, so here it is:

- type: webdav
- url: https://dav.mailbox.org/servlet/webdav.infostore/
- vendor: Mailbox
- user: <my-user>@mailbox.org
- pass: *** ENCRYPTED ***

The only differences I notice is that in my case the URL stops at `webdav.infostore/`, and that I didn't set up app-specific passwords.

I am on Fedora 42, `rclone` is at version 1.68.2.

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Robert Huhle ●

Hi Mike,

thanks for the quick help. So it was just a version issue. Mi rclone install on ubuntu was just too old.

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