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You're failing GMail DKIM as "No valid DKIM" in Authentication-Results header

k234525 shared this problem 6 months ago
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Apparently in an attempt to address this https://userforum-en.mailbox.org/topic/2301-inconsistent-authentication-results-of-mailbox-servers-seems-potentially-risky you're now failing GMail/Google Mail via an "No Valid DKIM" line in Authentication-Results despite DKIM being present. Furthermore, there is no dkim=... entry at all in the Authentication-Results header anymore, only a dmarc=... entry. For a missing DKIM there should be dkim=none or similar. This seems like quite a mess. Also, it says "incoming_mbo" instead of a proper "something.mailbox.org" server name clients can trust.

I hope this can be fixed timely, it makes filtering malicious e-mail almost impossible based on this header.

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It would be nice if this didn't take weeks to fix. Do you have a beta program where such issues can be reported early?

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Is this still happening?

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Sadly yes, I now forwarded an e-mail example to support@mailbox.org that is affected. Hopefully it will shed some light on what the problem is. Before the recent changes, the verification worked fine, so this is some new behavior of the mailbox servers that is suddenly causing trouble. Other senders than gmail also work fine.

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DKIM has been broken for a month now...

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But just yesterday they won an award for security with a DKIM criterion!

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It's still not working properly. Some forwarded e-mails in particular will fail when they shouldn't (and I don't mean the kind where the signed headers were modified), the dkim= header part is randomly missing, and there is no proper identifying hostname in the Authentication-Results header.

It used to work fine, but then they changed something in July 2025 ish.

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Hi,

thank you very much for your feedback. You are right, we are still experiencing some issues with DKIM. We are very sorry, and we are working on a solution, but we still have to ask for a little more patience. We will of course keep you updated and write here as soon as we have fixed the issue.

With kind regards
Your mailbox.org team

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Thank you for the acknowledgment. Until now I wasn't quite sure if it was recognized as a problem.

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I've had some interactions where despite my multiple explanations, there seems to have been quite some confusion about what even the problem is, with some suggestions contradicting some information already exchanged before. I'm not sure why that is, perhaps I communicated it poorly.

But whatever causes this situation to be ongoing, at this point I think I might be forced to start looking for a different e-mail provider.

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Is this fixed by now?

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I received the last mail that seems to be broken this way on the 26th and haven't heard about any changes since, so my guess is that it hasn't.

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As of 2025-10-30, this is still ongoing.

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It seems like, there's now a more detailed reason given:

reject ("cannot verify 2 of 2 signatures: {[1] = sig:google.com:invalid dkim param: fh}")

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I've started a similar thread in the German forum. However, my problem has been ongoing since June 2025.

https://userforum.mailbox.org/topic/12271-mails-mit-eigener-domain-sehr-haufig-ohne-dkim-signatur

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The problem here concerns purely incoming mail so I'm not sure how much it is related.

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Oh, sorry, then there is probable no dependency between the two problems.

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Dear Mailbox team,

Could you perhaps properly verify that this is a problem on your end? The steps are as follows:

1. SIgn up for gmail twice

2. Set up the one gmail address to forward to the other, and make the other one forward to a mailbox address.

3. Write any mail to the twice forwarded address.

4. Check the incoming mail in the mailbox.org inbox.

The incoming mail should:

1. show up as either a valid signature with this checker if you paste the source, https://www.appmaildev.com/en/dkimfile or it should show up as expired but no cryptographic mismatch.

2. the mailbox server will set the Authentication-Results header with likely the following problems: a.) the hostname will be "incoming_mbo" and not "something.mailbox.org" making identifying the trusted header difficult for downstream tools. And b.) the dkim= entry in the Authentication-Results header will either say invalid or it will be missing. And c.) the dmarc= header wilil likely indicate an invalid DKIM signature even though the third-party tool you just used claims there's a valid signature, whether expired or not.

Support keeps reverting to the position that this somehow not a problem on mailbox.org's side, even though this used to work correctly. Could you please verify with above steps that this is a mailbox.org problem? Thank you. It's been a couple of months back and forth, almost half a year with basic DKIM having issues, and this doesn't really seem productive. It seems like most things I say get lost again in later e-mails with the team. My apologies for where that is due to my suboptimal communication.

Regards,

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Hi k234525,

thank you for your message. We will check this and get back to you as soon as possible. Until then we ask for a little more patience.

With kind regards

Felix Kaspar
mailbox support

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Hi k234525 ,

thank you for your patience. Our administrators are looking into the matter. We will get back to you in the ticket as soon as we have more information. Of course we will publish our findings here as well.

With kind regards


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Felix Kaspar
Teamlead
mailbox Support

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